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Alligator label boss
Bruce Iglauer was Bitten By The Blues
by Linda Cain
Bruce Iglauer was bitten hard by the blues 50 years ago when he walked
into Florence’s Lounge on the South Side to witness the raucous blues
music of Hound Dog Taylor & The HouseRockers.
That experience inspired him to form Alligator Records at age 23. Now at
age 71, after seven years of work with co-author Patrick A. Roberts, the
president of the world’s largest independent blues label has released
Bitten By The Blues. The 337 page memoir recalls Iglauer’s life as a
hard core blues fan who went on to help make blues history by working
closely with some of the genre’s most influential and colorful artists
and presenting their intensely expressive music to the world.
The book is a wealth of blues history that draws both from Iglauer’s
encyclopedic knowledge of blues along with his vivid, personal
experiences with legendary artists like Hound Dog Taylor, Koko Taylor,
Son Seals, Luther Allison, Albert Collins, Johnny Winter and more. The
author also presents the future of the blues in artists like Selwyn
Birchwood, Shemekia Copeland, Toronzo Cannon and more.
The label boss also delves into the challenging business of running an
independent record company that delivers the blues to remote markets
such as China. The book also includes 30 “memorable moment” photos, plus
a complete Alligator discography from 1971 until present.
Co-author Patrick A. Roberts is associate professor in the College of
Education at Northern Illinois University. He also co-authored
Give ‘Em Soul, Richard! Race, Radio, and Rhythm and Blues in Chicago.
Chicago Blues Guide sat down for an online chat with the internationally
known blues boss turned author.
Q. What was your motivation for writing your biography/memoir? Was it
your idea or did someone else prompt you to start writing?
A. I had thought for a long time about chronicling some of my adventures
in almost 50 years of recording blues artists, managing them, being on
the road with them, as well as trying to build a successful business
(which means a surviving business) recording the music I love. I felt
that I could give readers some insight into the larger-than-life figures
I had worked with, the creative process of making records, and
challenges of creating and running a label. I probably never would have
done it except for meeting my co-author, Patrick Roberts, an experienced
writer. Patrick recorded over 100 hours of interview with me, which we
had transcribed. He then did the hard job of organizing my answers to
his questions into the first draft of the book. After that, almost every
word was rewritten or at least my thoughts were reorganized. After we
created the first chapter, we went looking for a publisher and got an
enthusiastic welcome from University of Chicago Press. From the first
meeting to the book being published was over seven years.
Q. Did you keep a personal diary or journal over time that you could
refer to?
A. No. I have a good memory and some documents from various recording
sessions, but that’s all.
Q. Who is your target audience for the book? What kind of reader did you
have in mind as you wrote?
A. I, of course, wanted to reach blues fans but also people interested
in the independent recording business. I tried to write/talk the book in
plain language, to keep it conversational and to be a fun read. I think
it will speak to both the most knowledgeable fans and those who just
want to learn more about the blues.
Q. What is your relationship with your co-author, Patrick A. Roberts,
and what role did he play in creating this book with you?
A. As I said, Patrick interviewed me for 100 hours. He didn’t just let
me talk—he asked specific questions that he though the readers would
want to know the answers to.
My words were transcribed, and then he did the “scissors and
scotch tape” job of organization. At that point, I saw how spoken words
sometimes didn’t always translate to paper, and I rewrote a lot of what
I said, with Patrick’s input and guidance. The publisher also encouraged
me to get deeper into the business aspects than I might have done
otherwise. Patrick and I were rewriting and editing up until the last
possible minute.
Q. How many pages are there and are there lots of photos?
A. Over 300 pages and 30 photos. Of course, I had more to say and would
have included many more photos, but the publisher gave me some limits (I
got in 10,000 more words than I was supposed to; I hope the publisher
doesn’t notice). I’m slowly organizing a website with additional
material and photos. It will be bittenbytheblues.com but I’m not sure
how soon it will launch.
Q. How much of the book deals with your personal life, or is it mostly
about your professional life?
A. Honestly, I didn’t think the readers would be very interested in my
non-musical personal life. The book goes a little into my background,
but gets me to Chicago and the blues pretty quickly. As you know, I’m a
workaholic and in fact I haven’t had much of a personal life.
Q. Which blues artists did you mostly write about?
A. The publisher and Patrick encouraged me to concentrate on the early
years of Alligator, so Hound Dog Taylor, Son Seals, Fenton Robinson,
Koko Taylor, Albert Collins, Johnny Winter, Roy Buchanan, Lonnie Mack
and Lil’ Ed & The Blues Imperials are the subject of a lot of pages. But
I was able to say something about most of the wonderful artists I’ve
worked with, including current artists like Shemekia Copeland, Toronzo
Cannon and Selwyn Birchwood. I wish I could have written at least a
little about every artist on the label, but it wasn’t possible.
Q. Are there any big surprises, at least to the average blues fan? Can
you hint at it without us doing a spoiler alert?
A. There are no big revelations but I think that the fans will be
interested in how music moves from the clubs to the studio, and how a
producer and blues artist interact. There are vivid portraits of the
South and West Side clubs (especially my favorite, Florence’s Lounge),
of adventures on the road, and in particular of the first Lil’ Ed
recording session (which was a surprise to both Ed and me) and the
terrifying train wreck that the Son Seals Band and I were in.
Q. You had to delve into the past and remember many parts of your life
experiences, both good and bad. Was writing this kind of like therapy?
A. The therapy part was chronicling some (not all) of the experiences so
that I knew that fans in the future could share in my experiences,
knowledge and what I hope are insights. Plus, for a lot of readers, my
almost-50 years in the blues world seems historic and colorful.
Imagine if Leonard Chess had
written a book, or Lester Melrose (who ran RCA’s blues label in the
1920s and ‘30s) or Don Law, who recorded Robert Johnson. Or my mentor
and hero and former boss, Bob Koester of Delmark Records. Any blues fan
would want to read those. I hope that my story has some of the value
that theirs would have had. I have some sense of legacy (and mortality),
so it felt good to get the story on paper.
Q. Do you feel that as a record company executive, you have been
misunderstood or misquoted at times? By writing this book, are you
intending to set the record straight?
A. There are a few times when I feel I’ve been mischaracterized. Over
the years, there have been some pretty ruthless record men, so it’s
natural that artists, fans and media sometimes looked at me with
suspicion. I’ve always tried to be a straight shooter, as Alligator
artists will attest. But for the most part I’ve let my story and actions
speak for themselves. I didn’t come into writing this book with any axes
to grind or scores to settle.
Q. Which chapter or chapters was the most difficult to write about?
A. When I started Alligator, I was 23 and my first artist, Hound Dog
Taylor, was 55. He died at 60. Since then, I have had to deal with the
deaths of so many people whom I cared about deeply. So writing about
deaths was always hard.
Q. If you could get in a time machine and go to back to your favorite
chapter in the book, which would it be and why?
A. I’d probably go all the way back to the first time I walked into
Florence’s Lounge on the South Side and heard Hound Dog Taylor & The
HouseRockers. It was the most fun music I ever heard, completely
energizing and exciting. And it set me on the course for my career.
Q. Where do you see yourself in five year’s time?
A. Well, I’m 71 now but I hope that in five years I’ll still be going to
gigs, producing records, finding new talent, running Alligator and still
sleeping as little as possible.
Q. If you had a crystal ball, what would be the next unwritten chapter
after those five years?
A. I have very strong commitments to the artists we presently have on
the roster—Marcia Ball, Lindsay Beaver (the ‘new kid’), Selwyn
Birchwood, Elvin Bishop, Toronzo Cannon, The Cash Box Kings, Tommy
Castro, Shemekia Copeland, Tinsley Ellis, Rick Estrin & The Nightcats,
Lil’ Ed & The Blues Imperials, Eric Lindell, Coco Montoya, The Nick Moss
Band Featuring Dennis Gruenling, Roomful of Blues and Curtis Salgado. I
certainly hope we’ll be recording more albums with them. In fact, we are
preparing new releases (some in the studio, some in planning) by Tommy
Castro, Coco Montoya, Toronzo Cannon and The Cash Box Kings. Shemekia,
Marcia, Eric, Tinsley, Curtis, Nick, and Lindsay have all had releases
this year. But in addition to these artists, it’s my mission to find and
record the musicians who are going to carry blues into the future—the
visionaries who have one foot in the tradition but are redefining the
blues for a contemporary audience (without losing its essence).
Q. How do you see the future of the blues? You have been signing some
exciting young talent that is going to keep the music alive by pushing
it in to the future.
A. Blues music, of course, comes from a tradition that goes back
hundreds of years. But it’s always changed and morphed to speak to
contemporary audiences, to create the “tension and release” that is its
hallmark, and to give people that healing feeling. It’s also been party
and dance music, as well as telling real life stories, both happy and
sad. So if blues is going to be a living music, and not a museum piece,
it needs to evolve both lyrically and rhythmically to speak to today’s
audiences. The stories have to resonate—I often tell artists, “Write a
song that starts ‘I woke up this morning and my hard drive crashed.’”
And blues should be danceable. When B.B. King was recording shuffles in
1955, people were dancing to shuffles. Now many blues artists are still
recording shuffles, but few people under the age of 50 would dance to
that beat. Why not blues with hip-hop beats, or other beats that are
popular today. How can we expect younger people to become fans if the
music is reworking beats and lyrics that are decades old? My big fear is
that blues will become like New Orleans jazz—a form frozen in time. For
this not to happen, older blues fans have to welcome ‘new blues’. Not
just hot rocking guitar solos (hardly new anymore) but different grooves
and different lyrics. Muddy Waters didn’t regurgitate Robert Johnson and
Son House. He made something modern (for his time) from their music.
That kind of reimagining of the blues (without losing the tradition) is
essential for the future.
Also—part of the future of the blues is reaching new audiences. I’m
thrilled that, as of just this month, much of the Alligator catalog is
available on the biggest streaming services in China. Blues speaks so
loud and clear that even people who don’t understand the words can be
moved by it. I’m counting on millions of future Chinese blues fans. They
just need to hear the music!
Q. Right now the vast majority of blues fans are getting up there in
years. Will the young artists help create new young blues fans? Any
examples of who is already doing this?
A. I am seeing some more young faces in blues audiences these days.
There are some younger artists like Selwyn Birchwood (a real visionary),
Christone “Kingfish” Ingram, Jamiah Rogers, Marquise Knox and others
whom younger fans can relate to because they are more their own age. But
reaching younger audiences is a definite challenge. I have been wishing
that there might be a real blues/hip-hop fusion band. I’d love to hear
electric guitar, harmonica, drums and a turntablist playing together,
with both singing and some relevant rapping (minus the hos and bitches).
Q. Any other thoughts as to how to help keep the blues going in the
future?
A. We could sure use some help from the media. Radio still means a lot.
It would be great if both black-oriented and album rock radio stations
would throw in a taste of blues. On the internet side, XM Sirius
‘segregates’ blues to one station. A little more imaginative programming
on XM Sirius would be great. Their blues station is good, but how about
a little blues on their rock stations?
Q. And finally, after the reader has finished the last chapter and
closed the book, what do you hope they will take away from it?
A. Ultimately the blues speaks for itself. If the music doesn’t move
you, my words won’t. But if the music does move you, I hope that the
book will give you greater insight into the artists who create the
music, the culture from which it springs, how recordings are made and
marketed, and thus make hearing the records and seeing the artists live
even more rewarding and fun.
Q. Thank you for your time and for all you have done for the music, the
artists and the fans over the last 50 years.
It’s truly been my pleasure. My life has been so much more exciting and
rewarding than I ever could have imagined. I’ve been in the presence of
greatness, and sometimes helped those great artists to record music that
will stand as their legacies. I see my role as a bridge—on one side are
the artists and on the other side is their potential audience. It’s my
job to bring the artists and the audiences together. |
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